[lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

Pierre Labastie pierre.labastie at neuf.fr
Sat Mar 1 14:34:21 PST 2014


Le 01/03/2014 22:58, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
> Pierre Labastie wrote:
>> Le 28/02/2014 23:24, Bruce Dubbs a écrit :
> 
>> Now, I have a question. I have never been involved in development, so just
>> take my question as a mark of curiosity: what is the reason to expect release
>> of LFS and BLFS to be close in time? I would think of something like:
>>
>> - LFS rc1 (duration: a few weeks, unless there is a need for rc2):
>>    - freeze packages on LFS
>>    - extensive testing of LFS build; correct security issues and blockers
>>    - update BLFS svn as usual
>> - LFS stable, BLFS test against LFS (duration: a month or so):
>>    - restart updating LFS svn
>>    - stop testing/updating BLFS against the previous LFS release
>>    - begin building/updating/tagging BLFS against the recent LFS release
>> - BLFS rc1 (duration: a few weeks + possibly rc2,3...):
>>    - freeze packages on BLFS.
>>    - extensive testing of BLFS build; correct security issues and blockers
>>    - tag untagged packages
>> - BLFS stable
>>
>> What I see as an advantage is that during the LFS rc stage, it is still
>> possible to change a few things on LFS, without risk to break already tagged
>> pacakges in BLFS. But there may be drawbacks I do not see...
> 
> The problem is that upstream changes packages very often and it takes 
> time to check BLFS.  We did a package freeze two weeks ago and LFS has 
> had 7 packages update.  BLFS has had about 40 update in the same time. 
> If we update a library, then what does that say about the testing of 
> packages that may need that library but have already been tested?
> 
> For many years, we didn't release a 'stable' BLFS at all.  We just used 
> a rolling release.  We've got some more help now, so the freeze time is 
> relatively short.
> 
> Testing the LFS build is actually fairly quick.  With alfs and skipping 
> checks, we can do it in a couple of hours.  The real test is whether 
> BLFS builds on it.  Unfortunately, as you know, it's difficult to 
> automate BLFS.
> 
> It's all a tradeoff.  We are almost ready.  The only things left right 
> now are fretts, gnash, and sendmail.
> 

Yeah, I have seen that this morning, only two packages left, it is incredible!
+ sendmail in archive. I feel bad I have done such a small part, and you have
done a wonderful job.

I cannot test any multimedia app (no sound).

I can have a look at sendmail, if nobody is working on it (tomorrow... it is
late here).

Pierre




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