grammar correction chap 4.1 LFS 6.6

stosss stosss at gmail.com
Fri Mar 12 12:47:15 PST 2010


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Chris Staub <chris at beaker67.com> wrote:
> On 03/12/2010 06:44 AM, stosss wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Chris Staub<chris at beaker67.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I also was only
>> trying to saying that if people would check facts instead of
>> projecting their opinions, which are often times wrong because they
>> don't know the facts. Threads that get as long as this one with the
>> stupid arguments would not happen. I am by no means an expert on
>> grammar, but I do know some of the rules about grammar. The a/an mess
>> runs rampant on the Internet. There are tens of thousands of people
>> that get it wrong all the time and they think they are right.
>
> Yeah, I know what you mean. Trust me, I want just as much as you to make
> sure the book is written correctly...if you've seen some of the
> suggestions I've made in the past, many of which were rejected...
>
>> Just another little note. The group that officially has control of the
>> word UNIX requires that it always be in capital letters. The only time
>> they actually want it like you wrote it above is Unix-like.
>
> Hmm, then you might want to take a look at the LFS "Prerequisites" page,
> and the Less, M4, Groff, GCC, and Glibc pages in Chapter 6. Then again,
> it might be better for your sanity if you don't...

Writing UNIX wrong isn't a violation of grammar. Getting grammar wrong
shows a lack of knowledge and understanding of the language and that
reflects poorly on the writer.

What I find really sad is this project is about two years older then
Gentoo and Arch Linux, but those projects have much better
documentation and a lot more people involved in the development and a
lot more users and a lot more activity on their communications
channels: forums, mailings lists, IRC etc.

I still want to help with this project but my enthusiasm has slipped
because of the open sometimes hostile resistance by insiders toward
outsiders like me. Sometimes there is a very obvious undertone of
don't tell us how to write our book, we will do it the way we want and
your input is not welcome. That I am sure is the reason the other
projects have out grown this one. They are more open to outsiders
coming in and suggesting changes.

For those taking this as a an attack take it for what it is, a fact,
the archives prove what I am saying. I am sure there are a lot of
people that wanted to help but moved on because they didn't want to
deal with the hostile resistance. As long as this project continues to
operate as a little click that doesn't welcome outsiders in it won't
get any bigger than it is now. You will continue to not have more
help.

Yes I have heard, we have more than 20 thousand users. More than 20
thousand people have said yes I built the base LFS system and that is
probably all they did and then put it aside went to another
distribution. I bet you have less then 500 actual users. The low
volume of traffic on the mailing lists is a good indicator of that,
but there is probably no way to actually find out one way or the
other. Traffic volume on the Gentoo and Arch Linux projects is much
higher. The ratio between the LFS lists and the other project's lists
is about 20 to 1.



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