What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

Thomas Trepl thomas at equinox.homelinux.org
Tue Feb 26 13:28:49 PST 2008

Hi all,

Am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 15:49:06 schrieb Jeremy Huntwork:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> etc.pp... 

Before adding another comment, i'd like to pay tribute to Jeremy for having 
the courage to ask such somehow blasphemous questions.  This is what has 
generated a quite intensive discussion where many people came up with good 
ideas and input. Many of them perhaps would never come up. I personally, i 
like to see that those discussion can happen and can lead to meaningfull 
results without any flame war. Thats really good and that is what makes me 
believe that the health in the project isn't soooo bad.

I just want to jump on the train driving to package management. One the one 
side i think it would be very useful but in the next moment i ask me, useful 
for whom? For me?  I dont think that it is much of help if i have to create 
my packages by my own. If i need to do that, i faster have installed the 
software without building the package first.  So if there is some kind of 
package management, I'll expect that there is a location, where i can pull 
packages for me to install. With dependency tracking? This would lead the LFS 
project to where we allways said we never want to be: A distribution. What is 
the educational factor of having a PM?
On the other side, why not trying this one? But personally, i think that there 
are too much other distros that the world isnt really in the need for another 

For the LiveCD I would like to see it in the spirit of LFS. Not that a LiveCD 
only contains LFS stuff - it would be much too few, much BLFS is needed too 
to become a useful CD. No, in the spirit of telling how it works, not showing 
that it has somehow worked. I mean, what if there is a description which 
shows up [one|the] way of how to create a CD. There maybe package managing 
techniques ala DESTDIR=xxx useful. Using this guide on top of the knowledge 
gained from the LFS book plus BLFS, the experienced reader should learn as 
much as needed for building his/her own CD. The one makes a minimalistic one, 
the other a Knoppix-like monster and i would setup one for a PPC without a 
VGA. So, give the people the knowledge on how to create a CD, not the CD.   
Of course, it would be nice if there would be one as something like 
the "proof of concept". 

The above is all nonsense, isn't it?


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