Use of Entities in the cross-lfs book

Jim Gifford lfs at
Tue Jun 21 13:37:14 PDT 2005

Ken Moffat wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Jim Gifford wrote:
>>The one thing I'm not sure on is if the SBU's will be the same on the
>>different architectures, as far as the build size goes, it should be the
>>same except for one package which is gcc, since we have a 32bit ABI
>>build, 32/64 ABI build, and 32/n32/64 ABI build.
> My guess is that outside the toolchain, SBUs will be broadly in line,
>partly because many packages fall into "the minimum SBU is 0.1".
> However, that is ignoring the time to run test suites (yes, I realise
>cross-lfs cannot run test suites in what we now call chapter 5) which
>seems to be the new consensus (and in practice, it's often the test
>suites which take the time, both in LFS and BLFS).  In the toolchain, I
>expect everything to vary greatly (e.g. I assume a multilib binutils
>creates a library to process both architectures, so I expect it to take
>>But these are things I'm trying to find out at this time. I have a
>>script that I have been working on that will calculate the build disk
>>usage. So far they are all within a few K of each other, but I need
>>others to validate the findings, once I feel the scripts are working
>Ah, more joy of scripts ;)  I deviate by symlinking /etc/mtab to proc
>for chroot, then it's just repeatedly df -k with a grep for something
>identifying the relevant filesystem (/mnt/lfs, rootfs, whatever), and
>repeat before the untarring, after installing, and after cleaning up.
>Of course, any logs had better be on a different fs (mount --bind) and I
>think cross-lfs builds host tools in ~/ which doesn't always lend itself
>to accurate space calculations in a running system. (growing logs if
>/home is on same fs as /, or just general output from users/processes)
>I'll surprised if glibc sizes are similar for many different
>architectures. Going back as far as LFS-5.0, glibc on ppc (32) always
>used to be considerably bigger than the x86 figures in the book, because
>all ppc instructions are the same length.
>Is/are the cross-lfs book(s) being regularly rendered in html yet ?
>I'm on a trial run of (LFS-6.1/BLFS-6) x86_64 blfs at the moment
>following a very broken hack on Ryan's scripts, but I expect to have
>another go at building x86_64 from i686 next week.  At the moment I'm in
>the "infinite number of monkeys with typewriters" stage, but one day I
>might crack it.
    It's not rendered on yet, we are going to set it up one of 
these days. A couple of us have it rendered

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