Robert Ian Smit robian at
Fri Jun 14 12:37:04 PDT 2002

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 01:08:36PM -0500, Archaic wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:57:26AM -0700, Timothy Bauscher wrote:
> > If i didn't know any better, i'd say that you, like
> > so many people, subscribe to this idea of an eye for
> > an eye and a tooth for a tooth. To me, that is a
> > terribly infantile, amimalistic philosphy.
> > 
> > Defense is about preservation, not descruction.
> Perservation is my goal. If you would attempt to kill my family, what is
> to say you wouldn't attempt to kill someone else's, as well? The concept
> is punishment and deterrance. I don't agree with the concept of the
> death penalty being a deterrance to would-be criminals, nor do I
> subscribe to belief in the death penalty. At least not in it's current
> incarnation. Either way, if I kill you while you are attempting to kill
> my family I have helped to preserve society for you would have been
> nothing but a cancer to that society and would most likely have killed
> someone else.
> I don't trust the inefficiency of gov't to keep you behind bars.
> Everyday, there is something in the paper about multiple violent
> offence criminals doing something to somebody, or escaping, or what
> not. Of course I also don't trust gov't to decide you should be put to
> death. Again, they are too inefficient (and corrupt) to make such
> important decisions. However, if I kill you in the defense of self or
> family, justice is served quickly, justly, and inevitably for the good
> of the society in general.
> Now don't get me wrong, this is my justification, but in the end, I've
> not been put in that situation and cannon say what will happen when my
> animalistic nature takes over, as it most certainly does in extreme
> situations.

In a black and white world there is not much wrong with what you
say, although I would hope to act differently from you in such a

I hope you see the diffence between your instinct reaction which
knows only two colours (b&w) and the reaction we expect from bodies
like a government.

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