Religion (Was Re: Music)

Archaic archaic at
Fri Jun 14 10:39:14 PDT 2002

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 07:31:51AM -0500, Albert Wagner wrote:
> On Friday 14 June 2002 10:45 am, Tony Karakashian wrote: <snip>
> >
> > Actually, the right to bear arms allows you to maintain your other
> > freedoms.  Words will not restore your rights when they are finally
> > all taken away from you.
> >
> What total crap.  Haven't you noticed that "they" have made an end run
> around your guns?  Your rights have already been severely eroded.  How
> does the right to bear arms allow you to maintain your other freedoms?
> Do you intend to shoot the members of congress and the supreme court?
> Do you intend to shoot the police that enforce their laws?  Just who
> do you intend to shoot?  Or do you really believe that just owning
> guns puts fear into those that are stealing your rights?

[W]hat country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned
from time to time that [the] people preserve the spirit of resistance?
Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to
time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Col. William S. Smith, 1787

Yes, overthrow of the gov't was intended should the gov't get out of
hand. To say it is impossible is to give up too early.


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.

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