[blfs-support] startx failes to work

Douglas R. Reno renodr2002 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 24 16:29:18 PDT 2016


On Sep 24, 2016 6:26 PM, "Rob" <captinlogic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are the service files really that much easier?  Look at the LFS scripts.
> A typical file is a simple bash script about a page long.  Half of that is
> comments.  Admins are used to reading bash scripts.  Reading these are
> comfortable and easy to understand.   Do you understand what systemd is
> doing with their short service files?
>
> And if it does not do the "right thing", which do you think is easier to
fix?
>
> We have a command
> systemctl status <target>
> which will tell you exactly why a service failed to run. At least
> most of the time.
> If you're not a scripter, you can still write service files
> because they are basically in the style of ini files from windows.
> They are a little more forgiving than shell scripts in that sense.
> systemctl enable whatever
> will plug in the service to start at boot; and it's a heck of
> a lot easier than creating a bunch of symbolic links in
> /etc/rc.d
> by hand.
> Debian has a tool
> update-rc.d
> which will do this (if you have all your numbers correct in the script
> anyway) but it still has to do a lot of work.
> I also like the journaling system. You can filter out
> various items with command line switches passed to
> journalctl
> and it's much faster than combing through
> /var/log/whatever
> to find information.
> In short, while systemd does make things a lot more convoluted,
> it does have its good points, and, while I'm not completely
> happy with it, I'm satisfied enough with it to keep going.
> --

I was going to reply with these points, but you beat me to it. Definitely
would've been a bit, needed to clear my mind and think rationally first.

Thank you,

Douglas R. Reno
--LFS/BLFS systemd maintainer.
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