Installing the Distro

Michael Shell list1 at
Wed Jul 14 21:24:12 PDT 2010

Forgive me if this is something trivial or otherwise already well known,
but all I ever wanted in LFS package management is something that watched
the installation from source and recorded what files were installed and
where for purposes of later *deinstallation*.

The idea here being that all installation/upgrades would be done from
source - true to LFS - but, a simple application could be called to
deinstall/yank already installed packages either because they are no
longer needed or prior to an upgrade where the older version (e.g.,
libraries) is not wanted (e.g., if something else breaks on the new
library without the old that would get upgraded too).

It would also be really great if there was some sort of "write sandbox"
where "make install" would be able to read from the root filesystem as
normal, but any writes would go to a "sandbox" "empty mirror" filesystem
so that all the installed files could either be packaged or
copied/installed after human "inspection and approval" (e.g., see what
it has written/altered before it is allowed to do so). This would also
be a safeguard against a malicious installer. Thus, final installation
could be done via a simple "cp -a" (of course, a simple copy could not
handle any "post" additions/alterations of files).

It would be nice to be able to see a list of things that depend on a
given application/library, but this is optional. And as James said,
such things should be done with self-contained databases, or even
better, just plain text files organized using the filesystem.

FWIW, IMHO, the RPM package manager started out as a good concept, but
then became so bloated as to be a sick joke with regard to dependencies.
The RPM package manager is often the first thing to break during upgrades
and the last to be restored. It is too fragile with regard to what it
depends on to be able to rely on it when your system is in trouble. Blah!


  Mike Shell


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